Hello?
Hi this is Jim Batt here.
Oh wow I love your accent, that’s awesome.
It comes natural.
That’s awesome.
Im duly supposed to inform you that this call is being recorded simply for my note-taking purposes.
Noworries, sorry I was a bit late calling.
Its all good you’re obviously very busy.
Yeah the last interview went a bit into technical stats so we ran a bit overtime
That’s totally fine. So we’re here talking with jim batt, about his creative collaboration for Neil Gaiman’s The Isle of St. Oran. So let me ask you, what made you as a director decide to take on this particular project?
We first heard the poem when Neil Gaiman was giving a reading of it at one of his events, I think even before it was published. He had given a reading of it and at the time I was looking for a new project, I had just finished a few other animated shorts, and so I got the poem stuck in my head, the strange imagery of it and the melancholy atmosphere. And when I was looking for a new project, I had some friends in common with Neil which was convenient, so I emailed him and was like hey, how would you feel about me adapting this poem. And he (Neil) is very generous with his creations, I think he’s more interested to see the versions other people will make of his stories. So he was onboard, he’d seen some of my previous work which I think really helped, so he could get a kind of sense of the skills I’d bring to it, and so yeah, that started the project. It was quite a few years ago now, and then off the back of that we planned to raise the funds for the project off a kickstarter, so we did that, and because Neil has such a supportive community, we were able to get together the funds to hire a small team, and that was that!
Was it you who made the decision to do the paper cutouts meticulously hand animated frame by frame?
(laughs) Yes it was. The project I had just finished at the time had been paper cutouts as well, so I had been exploring that kind of format before, and was interested in taking those techniques I had learned from making the previous film and developing them a bit further. One of the things I really like about it is its an opportunity to collaborate with other illustrators, so you can work with other people who aren’t necessarily familiar with animation, so one of the first people I brought onto the team was Ellen Barkin, she’s a Swedish artist who did all the watercolor drawings for the film, and because we do paper cutouts what it means is that she could look at our storyboard, draw and paint the scene, and then we would take it and break it all down into layers in photoshop, build the puppets from that, and then print it all out and hand-cut it all out with scalpel blades and then we actually animate on layers of glass, we use a fairly old-school technique called multi-plane animation, which is basically we’ve got a giant 9ft high by like 5ft wide rig that’s got like 5 or 6 layers of glass on it and we put all of the paper on it, we rebuild the scene with layers and the cameras overhead so from the cameras point of view, it looks like a seamless 3D landscape. But it means you can get in there and light each layer separately. Josh Mahan who’s the lead animator, could then get in there and animate the characters separate from the background and things like that.
That’s super cool. It reminds me a little bit of the ancient Chinese art of shadow storytelling, or shadow puppetry, if you know what I mean.
Yeah! For sure.
Was it you who made the decision to make it into a cartoon? Why not a Claymation or even a live-action?
Yeah! I mean, I direct live-action as well, so it was a very conscious choice to go with animation on this. I think, I find Claymation is harder to capture some of these more somber moments and I think that we knew that this story would have a lot of stillness and a lot of atmosphere, so it kind of made sense to go with something that has like the gentleness of watercolor and kind of ephemeral feelings with that, it definitely felt like the right approach, whereas Claymation is much more tactile and kind of more immediate. I think the other things that’s real important to me in terms of choosing stop-motion over Claymation is, is that it has this very real feel to it, you can see the way the light bounces around, its not like manufactured, all of it is grit and texture, from a digital composite or something. So that for me was a good way to bring that kind of feeling to the film. And live-action would be interesting, but I think it would be a challenge to capture a lot of this atmosphere, especially because of the way the story is told, like the landscape and the atmosphere and that sort of thing kind of change a lot throughout the course of the story, the scope would’ve been a lot harder, I think we have a lot of fantastical sequences in there that were challenging to do on a small budget, much less live action.
And will you be showing the film in various places, such as film festivals? How are we the common public gonna be able to see it?
Yeah, for sure! We’re actually at the tail end of our festival run at the moment. We got a little interrupted by the pandemic, unfortunately. But we’ve been screening here and there, had some really good screenings, it’s been awhile since we’ve had any in-person ones so I’m looking forward to actually being able to watch it with an audience again, like at Comic-con.
And that actually leads into my next question – it says that it’s your first Comic-con ever, please – elaborate!
So I haven’t been to Comic-con before! I’ve heard a lot about it, obviously.
I find that hard to believe, it seems like you’d be right up Comic-con’s alley!
Well, I look forward to checking it out this time! I’m gonna ease into it a little bit, I’m only going for the Saturday and the Sunday. And I’m looking forward to seeing what it’s all about!
Your Twitter handle happens to be “Battsignal”, are you into Batman?
Yes yes, when I was a kid I think Batman was my favorite comic book. So that was an easy Twitter handle to come up with.
That’s super cool. Do you have a preference as far as comics go? The standard DC vs. Marvel is a bit overdone at this point, and though of course for this there’s a bit of preference because DC Vertigo is Neil Gaiman’s thing, it’s where Sandman happens to live, but other comic book companies, and even graphic novels like Umbrella Academy and such, have gotten very popular in recent times, people are getting more into alternatives, what have you got?
Yeah, I think like you said the DC vs. Marvel thing is much less an issue these days, people can take what they want from each thing. When I was a kid I used to like DC comics a lot more, I wasn’t really into Marvel comics when I was younger, but then I kinda got back into comics when I was at University, all the DC Vertigo stuff, I read a lot of Vertigo comics at that point. I would say what’s interesting now is that on the film front, the Marvel films are definitely the ones I find more interesting, the DC films don’t feel quite like they’re nailing it as well. But I would say now I read a lot of independent stuff, so I would say probably Image is actually where, if you look at my collection of comics on the shelf, a lot of it is gonna be Image stuff.
Did you see the, I believe it was an Image character, the Bloodshot movie?
No, I haven’t seen that. Was it good?
I actually liked it. It wasn’t widely popularized despite starring Vin Diesel, but I thought it was good!
Okay good, I’ll have to check it out.
Have you actually been to the Isle in the story, the Isle of Iona?
No actually I haven’t, but by coincidence, my parents have. So they were like, oh we went there this one time, and I was like okay, that’s a huge coincidence. So they had some photos I could use for reference, which was good. And I got to show them the film and ask them, we got it right? So yeah that was an interesting little coincidence, but no, I haven’t but I would very much like to. When we did the Kickstarter, there were some people who reached out who were actually from Isle of Iona, saying they were very excited for us to tell the story and were looking forward to seeing it. So that was pretty special. And I would like to go there at some point, we briefly spoke with someone who was like, Oh there’s a festival and maybe we could do a screening, and I was like damn, that would be cool.
Wow, I am totally impressed. So, what are you working on next?
Covid has kind of screwed filming for awhile, so mostly focusing on scriptwriting for the moment. The next project will be longer, is the main thing. Depending on which of these gets off the ground, I’m interested in doing – stop-motion takes a long time to make anything, so I’m interested in doing something episodic there because the feasibility of doing a stop-motion film is very slim, and you need a lot of resources to not let that take up the rest of your life. But I am interested in exploring the idea of something that releases like a series of very short episodes, that like all add up to a bigger theme. That’d be an interesting format to explore so I’m working on some scripts there, and then some kind of Indy-Sci-fi feature scripts as well.
Is it possible to get a tiny tiny teaser for the sci-fi script you just mentioned?
Well it’s early days, but I can say it’s blue-collar sci-fi.
That doesn’t happen terribly often!
I wanted to do something in a kind of Cowboy Bebop vein. I think the title sequence to Cowboy Bebop is one of the most amazing pieces of animation ever done, such a good intro to like encapsulate exactly what they’re going for, and when I saw the live-action version of the intro and they just didn’t quite nail it, I was like, I think I’ll just leave this there for now.
Rather than courting potential huge disappointment, yeah. How about other anime you happen to enjoy?
I rewatched Princess Mononoke recently. It’s just like such a well-told story that is as timely as ever I think. It really captures that feeling of like, not needing all your characters to have a happy resolution at the end, some of the character arcs it leaves it pretty up in the air, like yeah this is some stuff and we’re gonna have to work it out. And I think that’s really important storytelling. You want your storytelling to be about something – it’s nice to have an element of escapism, what I like about genre in general is you’re able to inhabit other places but at the same time it doesn’t have to be an escape, it can be something that brings to mind current issues or themes, things that make you think of everyday life.
Do you watch foreign films, Korean, Japanese, that sort of thing?
Yeah, for sure. My favorite foreign thing recently has been Dark, all three seasons of Dark (on Netflix). With it’s like impeccable filmmaking, incredibly well-written scripts, I hesitate to recommend it because each season’s ending looked like it may have gone off the rails a bit, but they somehow manage to nail it, the plane lands on the runway and you’re like wow, they actually pulled it off. It somehow all clearly made sense, from step one, if you just hang in there. So it doesn’t pull a Lost, where it sort of veers off and no one knows what’s going on anymore! I was nervous in the beginning with Dark, like do they know what they’re doing, and then you get to the end and there’s things they clearly set up in episode one and you’re like, okay, this is master craftsmen at work here.
That’s fantastic and I will definitely take your recommendation. So was there a panel or anyone in particular you were looking forward to seeing at Comic-con?
I haven’t really had the chance to dig into what panels there are, I’m more just going to going and experiencing it. I think having too much of a plan sounds like not the best way to do that, so I’m just gonna catch up with some friends and then follow my nose and see where it takes me!
Sounds great! Well that’s the full slate of questions I had, thanks so much for taking time to do an interview with me, I hope your panel at Comic-con goes over very well and you have a grand time at the Con itself!
Cheers!
Movie
Wicked Soars As A Dazzling Spectacle
Jon M. Chu’s Wicked, the long-awaited cinematic adaptation of the Broadway musical, soars as a dazzling spectacle that captivates audiences with its lush visuals, heartfelt performances, and rich storytelling. The film, the first in a two-part series, delves into the origins of Elphaba and Glinda, exploring their unlikely friendship and the events that transform them into the Wicked Witch of the West and Glinda the Good.
Cynthia Erivo (Elphaba) and Ariana Grande (Glinda) lead the cast with exceptional performances. Erivo’s powerful vocals and nuanced portrayal of Elphaba’s internal struggles bring depth to the character. Grande, in her most notable film role to date, is both hilarious and heartfelt as Glinda, perfectly capturing her charm and comedic timing. Supporting performances by Jonathan Bailey (Fiyero), Michelle Yeoh (Madame Morrible), and Jeff Goldblum (the Wizard) add layers to the narrative, enriching the world of Oz with compelling subplots.
Chu, known for his work on Crazy Rich Asians and In the Heights, brings his signature style to Wicked, blending vibrant visuals with emotional resonance. The production design by Nathan Crowley is stunning, vividly rendering Oz with grandeur, from the Emerald City to Shiz University. Paul Tazewell’s costume design is equally striking, updating the Broadway look with cinematic flair. The score, by Stephen Schwartz and John Powell, retains iconic musical numbers like “Defying Gravity” while incorporating new arrangements that heighten their cinematic impact.
Critics have hailed Wicked as one of the best musical-to-film adaptations in decades, rivaling Chicago and Mamma Mia. Chu’s decision to split the adaptation into two parts allows for a deeper exploration of the story, giving audiences time to connect with the characters and their journeys. Fans of the Broadway show will appreciate its faithfulness to the source material, while newcomers will be enchanted by its universal themes of acceptance, ambition, and friendship.
With Wicked, Jon M. Chu has delivered a masterpiece that sets a new standard for musical adaptations. The film is a visual and emotional triumph, showcasing unforgettable performances and a meticulously crafted world. Whether you’re a fan of the original musical or new to the story, Wicked is a must-see cinematic event.
Rating: 3.5/5
Streaming
Movie Review: Devara Part 1 (Streaming on Netflix)
Devara Part 1 dives deep into the heart of coastal India, merging high-stakes action with rich, emotional storytelling. Directed by Koratala Siva, this movie delivers both visually arresting cinematography and a gritty, dramatic narrative that examines the impact of power, loyalty, and revenge. The film stars Jr. NTR as Devara, alongside Saif Ali Khan and Janhvi Kapoor, both in pivotal roles. With its mix of action, suspense, and drama, Devara has quickly become a must-watch on Netflix.
The film is set in a fictional coastal region, where Devara, played by Jr. NTR, emerges as a man caught in the crossfire of a world rife with ambition and betrayal. The narrative pivots around land issues and the power struggles within the community, which expose Devara’s journey from a common man to a feared figure within his circle. Saif Ali Khan’s antagonist is a complex and calculated character whose machinations add depth to the storyline, setting the stage for a high-stakes conflict with Devara.
The film uses classic Bollywood tropes of revenge and honor but explores them through a modern lens. Devara’s journey is marked by his raw emotional drive and relentless courage, and the character’s depth makes him a gripping protagonist. Janhvi Kapoor adds a softer, more vulnerable counterbalance as Devara’s love interest, providing relief amid the film’s intensity.
Jr. NTR shines in the title role, embodying Devara with both intensity and vulnerability. His transformation into this hardened figure is subtle and believable, allowing viewers to empathize with his struggles. Saif Ali Khan, as the antagonist, is charismatic yet menacing, bringing layers to his role that make him much more than a standard villain. Janhvi Kapoor, while not the primary focus, delivers a grounded performance, effectively conveying the emotional depth needed in a film as intense as this.
One of the strongest elements of Devara Part 1 is its cinematography. Siva and his team bring the coastal setting to life, with expansive shots that capture the rugged beauty of the region. Each scene is meticulously crafted to capture the landscape’s natural colors and textures, lending authenticity to the story. The high-quality production value, along with the tight pacing and impressive action sequences, ensures that the audience remains engaged from start to finish.
Korotala Siva’s direction keeps the narrative’s emotional core intact while focusing on action and drama. The way he layers tension and reveals character motives adds a degree of realism rarely seen in mainstream cinema.
At its core, Devara is about the moral complexities that arise when survival and loyalty collide. It tackles themes of power, corruption, and revenge, all within a tightly woven plot that never strays too far from the human element. The film also dives into social issues, shedding light on the systemic corruption affecting the lives of ordinary people in coastal India. Devara’s journey is one of self-discovery and confrontation with societal norms, and this depth keeps the film compelling beyond its action sequences.
The film also sets up exciting possibilities for Devara Part 2, hinting at an even deeper exploration of these themes, as the stakes rise and alliances shift.
Devara Part 1 combines strong performances, beautiful cinematography, and a gripping storyline. While it does lean on some familiar tropes, the story’s authenticity and Siva’s nuanced direction make it a worthwhile watch. The movie’s pacing, engaging plot twists, and character-driven drama make it hard to turn away.
Rating: 4.3/5 Devara Part 1 is a compelling drama that balances action and emotion, making it a standout in Netflix’s lineup. It’s perfect for viewers looking for a powerful storyline mixed with well-executed action. Highly recommended for fans of Bollywood cinema and anyone who appreciates stories with moral complexity.
TV
How the TV Show ‘Buffy’ handled SA
Trigger Warning: Discussions of sexual assault and rape.
In a lot of ways Buffy the Vampire Slayer was more than just a TV show…it was a feeling.
No. But it did change the way heroines were written and showed the world how awesome and self-aware supernatural comedies could be. In the mid-’90s to early ‘00s, Buffy influenced everything from fashion trends to the way we speak. The linguistic feature of speakers ending declarative sentences in an upward inflection (like everything is a question). This phenomenon, known as ‘upspeak’, became popular in the mid-90s to the horror of many a boomer.
Buffy was progressive in many ways for its time. A strong (yet at times, admirably vulnerable) relatable heroine. Buffy was cool, independent, and brimming with quippy comebacks. Buffy’s creator, Joss Whedon, may have turned out to be the bad guy but he did create an admirable main character and immerse us in her world. Buffy was one of the first primetime network shows to have a gay main character and a lesbian relationship. Lesbian-identified Willow Rosenberg ushered in a new age of sapphic style that helped generations of queer young people come out.
Throughout the show, Buffy has not one but two hot, badass vampire boyfriends. What’s not to love?
Well, as it turns out; a lot of stuff. Like many shows from that era, Buffy doesn’t always adhere to the morals and values of 2024. I am, and have pretty much always been, a Buffy obsessive (to varying degrees). Even I can admit the main cast wasn’t exactly diverse. There are of course insensitive comments and jokes that wouldn’t fly today, but what I want to focus on is the show’s treatment of sexual assault.
In Western culture, rape is seen as one of the worst that can happen to a woman, perhaps even worse than death. Throughout the series, Buffy (and her female comrades) is assaulted numerous times and threatened with rape even more.
Season 1 Episode 6 – The Pack
In probably one of the weirdest plots, an early ‘monster of the week’ episode. Buffy’s closest male friend is possessed by the spirit of a hyena on a class zoo trip (it happens).
To a lot of modern fans; Xander is the archetypal ‘toxic nice guy’. Identifies as a feminist but regularly slut shames his female friends and has different rules of conduct for them than he does for himself. Regularly treats his romantic partners as less than or infantilizes them. Xander’s questionable behavior aside, this is the first episode where his true nature perhaps shines through.
Up until this point he had been attracted to Buffy. The slayer’s disinterest in anything other than friendship had caused him to act petulant and snidey in ways only a teenage boy can. As loathe as I am to compliment Nicholas Brendon (‘Xander’) the complete personality shift he embodies for possessed Xander is laudable. He’s confident, cruel, and highly sexual. Even vampiric some might say.
Possessed Xander’s newfound animalistic urges lead him to attack Buffy with a strength that matches her own supernatural strength. In an uncomfortable scene, he pins her to a vending machine and tells her: “The more I scare you…(SNIFFS)…the better you smell.”
Buffy escapes by knocking Xander unconscious and remarks to Willow that Xander “tried his hand at felony sexual assault”. It could be argued that Buffy is making light of her trauma by joking about it. However, at the end of the episode, Xander pretends he remembers nothing about his possession but then admits to Giles that he does.
Other more popular recurring characters are forgiven for their horrific behavior due to their lack of souls (being vampires). However, the show never makes clear exactly what a soul is and how it affects a person’s intrinsic goodness. It is unclear what happened to Xander’s soul during his brief possession but the instance is never brought up again.
Season 2 Episode 20 – Go Fish
Yet another ‘monster of the week’ episode; the school’s swim team gets turned into sea monsters (again, it happens). Buffy goes on a date with a member of the swim team when she turns down his advances he locks his car door stopping her escape. When he tries to touch her she breaks his nose on the steering wheel. Buffy is blamed by the school for the way she dresses, almost every woman has heard that at least once!
The episode culminates with Buffy being thrown into a sewer with the monstrous swim team by the evil coach. The coach remarks that ‘his boys have already eaten “but boys have other needs”. Threatening our 17-year-old heroin with gang rape. Buffy of course jokes about her predicament and is saved in the nick of time.
It could be speculated that as Buffy is a metaphor in itself that the writers were trying to make a statement about how female victims of young male sports stars are treated.
Season 6 Episode 1 & 2 – Bargaining
Season 6 is extremely controversial within the Buffy fandom. Arguably the most polarising of the seasons. Whether you love it or hate it (I love it, just putting that out there) everyone agrees it’s the darkest season. Fittingly the season opens with Buffy being brought back from the dead and digging herself out of her own grave.
A gang of heavily pierced demons is attacking the town and is torturing the Buffybot (a replacement robot for the erstwhile slayer obviously). The head demon refers to Buffybot as “nothing but a toy, a pretty toy” in a sinister and arguably sexual way before we see her being torn limb from bionic limb.
If that’s not bad enough the head demon threatens Buffy’s friends (Xander, Anya, Tara, and Willow) by saying; “we’re just gonna hold you down and enjoy ourselves for a few hours”. He also brags about his gang’s “anatomical incompatibilities that tend to tear up little girls”. The blatant and graphic threat of gang rape disturbed a lot of fans. Was this a sign of things to come with the new direction the show was going in?
Season 6 Episode 19 – Seeing Red
And here we are. We couldn’t talk about the most controversial season of Buffy without discussing its most controversial episode. Seeing Red has fan favorite Spike (vampire) attempting to rape Buffy in her own bathroom after she is injured while vampire slaying.
Throughout most of season 6 Buffy and Spike kindled a sexual relationship. Despite the writers prefacing the two as a metaphor for a toxic relationship, the couple are championed by fans to this day.
The scene itself is horrific. I can recall watching it when it was aired at the age of 12 hesitantly through my mum’s plants it was that awful. On a recent rewatch I committed myself to watching it again thinking it can’t be as bad as I remember, despite always fast-forwarding that bit on my videos (yes, I’m that old). It was as bad as I remembered.
The scene was heavily choreographed with alternating close-ups of Buffy and Spike (separately) to inspire the audience’s empathy with each character. Along with the being so brightly lit, the scene is extremely disorienting. The choice of lighting makes the actors look all too human.
Encouraging empathy for both victim and perpetrator during a rape scene is an interesting premise. Personally, I liked how multilayered and complex Buffy and Spike’s relationship was for what was billed as a teen drama. But I, like many, was traumatized by this scene. James Marsters, who played Spike, calls shooting the scene; “the darkest professional day of my life” (Marsters J, 2024) and sends him to therapy. Buffy herself, Sarah Michelle Gellar (Gellar S, 2024) is quoted as saying that she skips that particular episode while watching with her young family.
Many conspiracies were discussed after the airing of the episode. Many thought that it was creator Joss Whedon’s way of getting the audience to hate Spike. Whedon made no secret about hating Spike and had to be talked into making the series regular due to his popularity. As tempting as it is to blame Whedon, he was barely involved in the show at the time.
It is commendable that Marsters (outing myself as a fangirl here) is willing to honestly talk about how the episode affected him personally and the fanbase. Unfortunately, the show failed to properly address Buffy’s trauma. Despite showing her having PTSD-like flashbacks to the attempted rape when seeing Spike again in Season 7.
To me, Buffy has always embodied everything that is great about being a woman. She’s strong, resilient, and unapologetically feminine. Her story is one of triumph against all odds while still staying true to herself and empowering her friends along the way. As Buffy is a feminine story perhaps it is appropriate that it shows the unfortunate side of being a female presenting person. Women are assaulted regularly and usually by close friends someone they are on a date with or someone they’ve had a sexual relationship with. Many have argued that the handling of these scenes was clumsy or even irresponsible. This may be true but having someone as inspiring as Buffy Summers overcome and thrive after an assault could prove that anyone can and make victims feel less alone.
Buffy is, as always, a source of strength for many.